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Really-From: Francisco Salgado Cerredelo( taken from E&MM, Jan, 1982) ---------------------------------------------- EDGAR:It's the last record of a decade for TD. Whatever we release will not be that sort of TD anymore. It will be a total change, and it has nothing to do with our not using sequencers in the way we do. We simply want to risk a bit more in life. Most successful bands these days buy big houses and so on- rather than risk experimenting further afield with their music, but I think once in your life it's worth taking that chance. (jurnalist: we discussed the six pieces of Exit in turn and Edgar and Chris diversified around the music make-up) KIEV MISSION EDGAR: The basis of this piece came from improvising for some 1 1/2 hours and out of this we took about five minutes of music. The opening collage of sounds with the gong was added later. The "frequency modulated" gong is actually made on our synclavier (which we keep in the studios at present), and the pink noise output is controlled by one of the digital sequencers. Our instruments in performance for any of the pieces are not necesarily the ones we used for the LP. On stage we now use the PPG2 and the minimoog pink noise. (Journalist)The drum rythm is the same for every bar of the piece- often the case on the othertracks as well- but without consciously analysing the drums alone it's certainly not evident in the music and has none of the monotonous feel that home organ rythm units can produce. CHRIS: Our drum part does not play the same role as in the rock band - it merely supports the music at the appropriate places. We have a number of 'clock' oscillators that give the drums ' pre-programmed' tempo. We also set up tempos for the triggers that control the sequencers with pre-programmed oscillators linked to digital counters. Oce the sequencers are running, the melodic parts and the sound effects for the pieces are interchanged amongst the three of us. Since all instruments can become the bass or monophonic melody and most can be polyphonic, there is plenty of scope for experiment. On stage, each person would know the part he had to play in the piece, and this is where the pre-difined structuring is important to create the required balance, but within that framework there is freedom to imnprovise and experiment. EDGAR: The words in this piece are russian- we have many friends in Russia and it's a sort of message for the peace movement, against Nuclear Power. The words are spoken by an actress from Berlin. (Journalist)The sonorous synthesizer bell effects come from a PPG2 and the make-up of the piece highlights another extemely important aspect of TD music: The sequence ends before you become tired of it (consider the number of experimental electronic music recordings you've heard that seem to say it all in a few moments, yet plough on for the whole side) EDGAR: Don't forget one thing, working it out on record is totally different to doing the live concert. All the adjustements we have to do in the live concert make it much more complicated and even if you want to press a particular knob it's so easy to miss it in a certain bar or press another , so that the piece then develops in a slightly different way. CHRIS: When we record a piece it is some time before we are able to put it on stage. Some parts can be very difficult to set up in real time. EDGAR: In the studio, I have an editing facility that shows me the notes I play as I'm improvising. Afterwards, if we find something interesting, all the notes are there for us to play. We don't follow the old fashioned way of writing down everything exactly. We momorise our parts for the keyboards and my guitar in performance and that, of course, implies knowing the control settings required as well as the notes. If any writing is done it's in the alphanumerical code. (Journalist) Comming back to our first piece, the interesting string unison that arrives in the middle comes from Prophet. But once again, actual instruments are not too important- it's the character of the sound that is interesting. The track is dominated by the sound of digital PPG waveform shaping, which was a new sound for the goup at the time. The 64-waveform scan can make a tremendously rich harmonic sound with no lack of high frequencies that is iften noticeable in analogue LPF systems . (...) The piece ends with a reference to the opening theme and fades aeay to end. EDGAR: We had to do this on the record because of the time factor and we preferred to fade out rather than add a poor ending point. it was a compromise, and we don't like to do it. PILOTS OF PURPLE TWILIGHT (Journalist) This uses just one sequence running trhough the piece. The way the music begins half way trhrough the bar gives a fascinating start to the rythms and it takes a while to orientale yourself to what is happening. The OB-X is the sound maker except for the 'bleep' melody line later, produced on the wave 2. EDGAR: A lot of the melodic lines we compose are more easily played directly on the keyboard. Other complex sounds lend themselves to sequencer treatment, but if you want to add accents it is better done manually in performance. The best thing about the sequencer is that frees you from the notes to concentrate on tonal adjustments. CHOROZON (Journalist) The noise effect comes from the mini-moog. Edgar pointed out that a lot of the effects TD do are much simpler than you imagine !. Chris could not recall the notes of the sequence as this was programmed some time ago and so I have made an aproximation that fits in suitably on the printed music. The elctronic drum start is unusual for TD and reminded me of a recent Ultravox concert where nearly all pieces started this way. The polyphonic glide is done on the Oberheim and main theme is played on the mini.moog using two oscillators. We agreed that syntesyzer sounds never need be static- they can always be changin and this makes electronic music much more acceptable in the long term. EXIT (Journalist) This is a smoothly performed piece with floating quality that is pushed gently along by the repeated two bar two-note sequence and 'spiked' bass sound. There is a tap reversal effect at the start which is a cymbal backwards and Edgar calls the filter sweep 'splashes'. Once again a very strong theme is played on the PPG which appears four times . The syncopation is very precise and gives the subtle move away from the beat that is a feature of TD music. It is derived from Chris's and Edgar's liking for modern jazz. The fast-running notes up and down in the next stage of the piece are made on the PPG Sequencer with a random reset point selected by Edgar during recording to give free feeling. As the music moves on, rear thunder sounds are treated with flanging and phasing. EDGAR: We love to use natural element against our electronic sounds and as a result we don't actually perform this piece on stage. Some effects such as this do restrict us from playing several pieces live, although , for example, we now do the reversed cymbal effect on the mini-moog. CHRIS: In our performances we don't play too many pieces- our program is in two parts, lasting around 45 minutes each (plus the planned encores !) (Journalist)The piece ends with treated rein washing away the music. NETWORK 23 (Journalist) Treated sampled sounds reveal a steady tempo with ringing filtered notes and passing 'seagull' effect. Once again the filtered single sequence dominates, until a split channel (left and right) three note motive overtakes, with interesting interjections from flute-like and other echoing sounds. Panned 'seagull' flies past, with chord anticipating the beat and 'voice' PPG sound crying out. Finally, the Bass Drum is noticeable as the music fades away. REMOTE VIEWING (Journalist) Here's a different sound altogether with athereal blends of strings, voice images and ad lib beats. A more ominous mix of sound brings metallic PPG notes and continuous fades of other layers that eventually become a single flute. Behind the flute hangs three repeated sequences and an octave bass quaver group. As the flute wistles a meandering melody with vibrato, maraca shake semiquavers gently. The volume gradually increases as other PPG sound improvise over the rithmic sequences and the bass changes imperceptibly. Back comes the flute to close. (journalist: Mike Beecher)