Kelly: The following interview of Dr. Ernst Stuhlinger was conducted on December 8, 1997, in Huntsville, Alabama. ... It was a very active place where the big rocket was developed under [Wernher] von Braun. ... His father, Wernher von Braun's father, was at that time ? ... For us people in the rocket project, von Braun himself and he said so many times and others, too, my colleagues and I personally also, we never thought that our rocket would be ready for deployment before the war ended. ... Kelly: ? ...