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  may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle?
      16.03.2005 22:12
 

in my dictionary, only орел и могучий орел, but my teacher said, могучий орел is not a kind of eagle, it just means the eagle is brave and strong.
so, may someone tell me some words about types of eagle. for example, змея, гадюка, и.т.д.
sorry for my russian, i don't know a better example

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      16.03.2005 22:16
 

For example "орлан"=sea-eagle
If you tell me English variant, maybe I can translate it into Russian




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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: FrauSoboleva]
      16.03.2005 22:21
 

for example, roc, vulture,
and any other word you may think out

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      16.03.2005 22:24
 

vulture = гриф, ястреб, стревятник

they are not eagles exactly, they are another predatory birds





Редактировал Gluk (16.03.2005 22:25)
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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      16.03.2005 22:25
 

I think vulture and eagle are different birds, but I can tell you some words: vulture = "гриф", hawk = "ястреб", condor="кондор", falcon="сокол"



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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Gluk]
      16.03.2005 22:25
 

Гриф и ястреб - сильно разные птицы. Это слово по-моему именно гриф. До орла ему и вправду как шакалу до тигра..



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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: FrauSoboleva]
      16.03.2005 22:41
 

thanks!
i need to find a commendatory word. if i want to describe a strong, brave and free hero, which word is the best? сокол орел или другие?

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Gluk]
      16.03.2005 22:42
 

Thank you very much

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: FrauSoboleva]
      16.03.2005 22:44
 

Here are russian names for some species of eagles (genus Aquila):

БЕРКУТ (is the most big and strong among eagles);
МОГИЛЬНИК;
ОРЕЛ СТЕПНОЙ;
ПОДОРЛИК БОЛЬШОЙ;
ПОДОРЛИК МАЛЫЙ.

http://www.floranimal.ru/families/4284.html


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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      16.03.2005 22:45
 

Usually people use word "орел" as the highest praise. "сокол" also used as a praise.



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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Abraxas]
      16.03.2005 22:48
 

Thanks!!!

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: FrauSoboleva]
      16.03.2005 22:49
 

if so, i will choose opел

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      16.03.2005 22:52
 

Quote:

if i want to describe a strong, brave and free hero, which word is the best? сокол орел


I think that "сокол" is more suitable for a person whose profession is connected with air (for example for a pilot). "Орел" seems to be a more universal word, but it sounds slightly old-fashioned

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Abraxas]
      16.03.2005 23:05
 

here is the original version:
cмелый орел скоро будет стремительно взлетать вверх с ветром, прямо до девяти тысяч километров

i am translating a poem. the poet is an ambitious hero. he thinks he is the eagle.

so, which word is better?

by the way, may you correct the mistakes of my translation

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      16.03.2005 23:57
 

орел....



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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      16.03.2005 23:59
 

I remember one more: "Змееяд".It's a kind of an eagle.



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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      17.03.2005 00:02
 

Quote:

so, which word is better?



"Орел" seems to be the proper word.

Quote:

by the way, may you correct the mistakes of my translation



There are no mistakes in the passage you've written, but may I suggest my own version?

"скоро храбрый орел взлетит с ветром на девять тысяч (кило???)метров"

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: FrauSoboleva]
      17.03.2005 00:51
 

Thanks! орел!

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Abraxas]
      17.03.2005 00:55
 

i will choose орел
i feel that your translation is better than mine. thanks

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  Re: may someone tell me some russian words about types of Eagle? [re: Spring]
      17.03.2005 01:40
 

my humble opinion...

Spring, you seem to be looking for subtleties of Russian... So, here you are =))
In general people don't know differences between eagles. I'm not sure that everyone can easily distinguish between сокол, орел or беркут. Сокол, Орел are widely used in Russian to indicate ambitious persons. Other species of eagles are less common.

Here are some common phrases with these ОРЕЛ:
"Взгляд как у орла" - a phrase from a popular russian song. It is known that eagles have extrenely good eyes. They flight very high looking for a pray and they can notice pray on big distances. Metaphorically, a man who has "Взгляд как у орла" is a very smart and observant person.
On the other hand, "орлиный взор/взгляд" may indicate haughtiness, arrogance.
"Орел или решка" - head or tail. Traditionally on one side of russian coin there is a state emblem. I.e. double-headed eagle.

By the way, Spring, where are you from? Do you study Russian?

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